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□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 22, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Yoon Hee-seok, spokesman for People's Power
◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee from News Fighting. This time, let's continue with the third issue interview. Representative Han Dong-hoon called for the resolution of the First Lady Kim Gun-hee problem in a meeting with President Yoon Suk Yeol. From Han's point of view, he handed over the ball to the president's office on sensitive issues. This evaluation comes out, and it's connected to Yoon Hee-seok, spokesman for People's Power. Are you here? ◇ Yoon Hee-seok, spokesman for the People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Yoon Hee-seok): Yes, hello. ◆ Bae Seung-hee: Hello. Representative Han Dong-hoon met with the President and delivered the three demands concerning Mrs. Kim and the appointment of a special inspector. Have you ever entered the presidential office? ◇Yoon Hee-seok: I don't think we've received anything special yet. The president's office also didn't make an official position. ◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. ◇Yoon Hee-seok: However, I heard this reaction that the president said something sincere and serious. ◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But representative Han delivered the results of the interview. The presidential office said that the party and the government decided to become one, but I think they are in a slightly different position. What is the reason for this disagreement? ◇Yoon Hee-seok: It's natural that the party and the government decided to become one, and that's confirmed. Regarding the medical vacuum and the issue of people's livelihoods, the ruling party and the government have decided to go together. However, I heard that CEO Han Dong-hoon did not hear a definite answer to the three demands related to Kim Gun-hee, which were mentioned earlier.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. These three demands, personnel reform of the presidential office, suspension of Kim Gun-hee's external activities, and resolution of the explanation for each suspicious situation. Is this the position that it is difficult to accept from the perspective of the presidential office?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: From the point of view of the Presidential Office, there may be aspects in which the three requirements are very difficult to accept. For example, in the case of personnel reform, wouldn't it be entirely within the presidential personnel rights? No matter how much the leader of the ruling party, not the president, can be accepted if someone else talks about it, and please stop activities related to Kim Gun-hee. In a way, it is indispensable for diplomatic activities. There must have been some parts that were difficult to accept in that regard, and the last part is the same. It is to explain the resolution of the suspicion and follow the specific procedure, but I also judge that there are situations in which the president's office may feel that Han Dong-hoon's request is a little unreasonable because it may be vague in a way.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But these contents were actually known even before the interview, but did you have anything else to say other than this because you asked for a private meeting? What if you had a private meeting?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: Even if we had a solo meeting, it doesn't seem to have changed much, but the reason why we had to disclose these three demands through the media in advance was because there was a by-election in the middle. In the process, there was an inevitable need for representative Han Dong-hoon to make a strong statement to win the election, and as a result, the requirement itself was also what the public felt during the election process demanded. So, I think it can be seen that the party leader's certain responsibility to convey the public sentiment has been told to the president by its objection.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But he conveyed the public sentiment during the election process. If so, would it be meaningful to point out that the election Geumjeong-gu Office and Incheon seemed to have won by a pretty big margin?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: The results of the election came out better than expected in the case of Busan Geumjeong, for example, but there are some polls that were considered very difficult at the beginning of the election, and the public sentiment that can be gained in the process, regardless of the results, can't it sound different from the results? In that sense, I think representative Han Dong-hoon, who was in the process of being able to feel the public sentiment directly, must have felt the pressure to tell the president exactly what the people are asking for and all of them.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Is that so? Don't you think the results of the election and the public sentiment were a little different? As you said, First Lady Kim Gun-hee's problem is so important, and we kept talking about it, but the election result was won in the end, right?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: Then let's take a look at the case of Ganghwa, Incheon, for example. Rep. Bae Joon-young wins by 27 percentage points six months before the last general election. But this time, he won only about 8%, and of course, candidate Ahn Sang-soo came out as an independent, so he took about 6%. Then, if we look at the votes, we can say that we won about 15 percentage points, but then 12 percentage points were lost in the middle.
◆Bae Seung-hee: Shouldn't we consider it since it's a by-elections?
◇Yoon Heesuk: Then how are you going to explain Busan Geumjeong? So it's fortunate that we won over individual regions, and we did a good job, but if we focus on the voices of the people who were heard in the process, I think there can be enough things that representative Han Dong-hoon can convey to the president. I think it's very dangerous to evaluate that public sentiment is okay because we won the election to some extent.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I see. But don't the passport have a consensus about yesterday's meeting, saying, "We shouldn't stop empty-handed?" If there are no results, the presidential office and the ruling party will be hit hard. Will it pay off? When will it come out?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: Now that the meeting is over, we should make our own judgments about the results, but we haven't heard much from both sides yet, and I think there's anything that can be said to be a big achievement from what's been done so far. In that sense, I've been having a bit of a worried night.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. So, something will come out in the future, right? What do you expect?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: First of all, if there is any conversation or other follow-up measures, I can look forward to it again, but for now, all the media are saying it's an empty-handed meeting. Looking at it in the morning, I don't see such an easy situation continuing for the time being.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But didn't CEO Lee Jae-myung decide to have this meeting while cheering for CEO Han Dong-hoon before the meeting? How should we look at the background of this meeting?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: First of all, when the two had their first meeting on September 1st, they agreed to meet from time to time. I thought you were just saying it as a greeting, but I guess you guys really had a lot of thoughts to see. Coincidentally, however, CEO Lee Jae-myung suggested it yesterday morning. In my opinion, CEO Lee Jae-myung strategically made a proposal yesterday morning, but if CEO Han Dong-hoon delays answering the proposal or expresses his rejection, for example, it becomes very strange. In my view, I think that's why he was willing to respond, and of course, that was a situation where the answer had to come out right before the meeting with the president. So I understand that there are many interpretations.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There was no special reason for CEO Han Dong-hoon. That's what you're saying.
◇Yoon Hee-seok: Isn't there any reason why Representative Han Dong-hoon deliberately said he would meet with Representative Lee Jae-myung before the meeting with the President? I don't think there is any reason for this, except that the time of the proposal by Representative Lee Jae-myung was yesterday morning.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. The story about Lee Myung-tae-kyun is plastered all over the political world. Salami revelations are continuing. The party also made a very strong position. What kind of measures do you have?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: First of all, there are many suspicions, but if you look closely, you can focus on whether it's about money or whether you fabricated a closed poll. The money problem seems to be an internal problem for them, including former lawmaker Kim Young-sun. The issue of manipulation of opinion polls does not seem to be that problematic in terms of any substantive effect. The most important thing for us is to clarify this suspicion of whether there was or not nomination intervention during the by-elections, and the party has no investigative power on this, but it is currently conducting a party audit.
◆Bae Seung-Hee: What else will come out when we do party audit?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: Anyway, since the party has data, I think it is possible to check the substance of the by-elections process or how the list of party members related to Myung Tae-kyun was transferred to some extent.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Yesterday, informant Kang Hye-kyung attended the National Assembly as this witness. There was a lot of talk there, but the opposition party came out because it was called the Myung Tae-kyun list, but there were also a lot of ruling party members. A lot of people from the ruling party came out, so how do you evaluate the list?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: It means that I had some contact with Myung Tae-kyun and entrusted him with the poll, but I don't think that alone is a big problem. Myung Tae-kyun is not a North Korean who has to contact with government permission. It is only a matter of finding out what kind of illegal work this person has done and whether it has given illegal benefits to those involved, so I don't think it's a matter of simply dividing him into a problematic person and who is connected.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. You mentioned suspicions about Kim Gun-hee, but Kim Min-jeon is the best in the party leadership as suspicions about Kim Gun-hee continue. Let's propose '3 Mrs. Kim Special Prosecutor'. So, not only Kim Gun-hee, but Kim Jung-sook and Kim Hye-kyung, let's do the special prosecution together. This argument came out. How did you see it?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: You said it at the top yesterday. It's something that can be fully considered, but I think we need to think more about whether it is appropriate to propose a special prosecutor for these three right now. Since suspicions are concentrated on Kim Gun-hee in the public, it would be better to reverse the low public opinion trend toward Kim Gun-hee to some extent and then suggest it in reverse. That's what I think. Personally.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Wasn't there a four-vote deviation from the power of the people when the independent counsel Kim Gun-hee re-voting the independent counsel law? Do you expect more than four votes next time?
◇Yoon Hee-seok: There are a lot of people who see it that way on the surface. However, I think it may be more difficult because the Democratic Party's third special prosecutor bill contains such a toxic clause. The allegations of involvement in the nomination regarding Myung Tae-kyun were also included in the scope of the investigation. If the independent counsel bill is passed and the independent counsel is established, there is a possibility that the search warrant requested by the independent counsel to our party will be executed, and our party could be subject to investigation. We can't accept that. If you look at something like that, I don't know. I think it's a difficult situation to predict prematurely. Of course, public opinion pressure may get worse, but I think it will be a completely different move from passing the bill and moving some public opinion on the special prosecutor.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: As you said, CEO Han Dong-hoon made three demands yesterday. In this regard, if the president's office does not request it, representative Han Dong-hoon should receive an independent counsel. Should I change the stance like this?
◇Yoon Heesuk: I told you that you can never do that. Since the independent counsel bill was proposed, representative Han Dong-hoon has pointed out the problems related to the toxin clause mentioned just now.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, I see. Anyway, this independent counsel law is a little different. You're in a different position.
◇Yoon Heesuk: Bill passage is different.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party of Korea is appearing like this during the parliamentary audit. Yesterday, I issued an accompanying order and went to Yongsan again. How did you see the issuance of an accompanying order for the first-ever presidential wife?
◇Yoon Heesuk: Although there is a companion order system, it has never been this excessive. In addition, a companion order is issued to the spouse of the incumbent president. And in order to enforce it, Democratic lawmakers follow and take a protest in front of Yongsan. In conclusion, it's just that Kim Gun-hee is just going to humiliate you, and these things are repeated over and over again. Since the people all know that the intention itself is impure, I think the Democratic Party should change its strategy.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Thank you so much for the interview even though you're busy. Thank you. This has been Yoon Hee-seok, the spokesman for the People's Power.
◇Yoon Heesuk: Yes, thank you.
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