San Antonio horse-drawn carriage survey receives massive response (2024)

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Survey has more than 47,000 responses as of Monday morning - nine times as much as recent budget priority survey

Garrett Brnger, Reporter

Sal Salazar, Photojournalist

Adam Barraza, Photojournalist

Tags:San Antonio, Horse-Drawn Carriages, City Hall

SAN ANTONIO – A day before it closes, the City of San Antonio’s survey on horse-drawn carriages has already received a huge response online.

The survey, which opened Jul. 25, had already received more than 47,000 responses as of Monday morning - about nine times as many as the city got for a recent budget priority survey. The survey is scheduled to stay open through Tuesday.

The city council is considering whether to ban horse-drawn carriages outright. The Transportation and Infrastructure Committee will discuss a possible ban at its Aug. 19 meeting, at which the survey results will be presented along with the city staff’s recommendations.

The issues have sparked passionate debate on both sides, with ban supporters focusing largely on animal welfare and traffic concerns and carriage supporters arguing they are being unfairly maligned.

The survey includes a question on how carriage operations should continue, providing four options:

  • Transition horse-drawn carriages to electric carriages and pedicabs and ban horse-drawn carriages completely

  • Continue horse-drawn carriages with alternate hours and move operations outside Downtown into City Parks

  • Continue horse-drawn carriages with alternate hours Downtown and expand outside downtown

  • Keep horse-drawn carriages operating as is

The city’s various online surveys are not designed to be statistically valid, and the city has been soliciting feedback from tourists, residents, and downtown business owners, for the horse carriage survey.

Stephanie Garcia, the owner of both Yellow Rose and H.R.H. Carriage Companies, is unsure how the results will be used.

“If it’s against us and it comes out as against us, I think they would say, ‘yeah, this is the public one.’ And I think if it’s for us, I think they’ll just ignore it,” Garcia said.

Garcia said she’s worried about how the survey on the hot-button issue is being pushed outside of the city, pointing to a Facebook post by a New York-based influencer with 2.2 million followers as an example.

In a Jul. 29 post, “Cat Behavior Expert” Jackson Galaxy, who had been in San Antonio for a May convention, urged San Antonio residents and visitors to take the survey “and help decide the future of the city’s horses. We know what their vote would be, so let’s be their voice!”

But carriage supporters have their own extended reach. The Cavalry Group, which lobbies for animal-related businesses, also posted the survey on its Facebook page and encouraged its followers to take it, noting the survey “does not require the participant to be a constituent of San Antonio.”

Garcia said it’s also easy to take the survey multiple times by simply using “incognito mode” on a browser, which KSAT was able to verify.

“I’ll be honest, I’ve taken it a lot of times,” Garcia said.

Asked why, she said “Everybody else is going to be doing that. And like I say, it’s not a scientific survey.”

It’s not clear exactly how the city will account for multiple submissions, though a spokeswoman said the city is tracking IP addresses and collector IDs.

Councilwoman Phyllis Viagran (D3) co-sponsored the original request for a ban, though she has since said she is open to a compromise that would keep the carriages in operation.

She said council members will likely ask about the possibility of multiple submissions, though she also said the survey is only one tool in how the council will decide to proceed.

“This really should be going to the planning committee or more B-sessions before you have an answer,” Viagran said. “So I know some want an answer and they want this to be the end-all, be-all. But I’m going to argue that we - there’s a lot more conversation to have regarding this issue.”

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Garrett Brnger

Garrett Brnger is a reporter with KSAT 12.

Sal Salazar

Sal Salazar is a photojournalist at KSAT 12. Before coming to KSAT in 1998, he worked at the Fox affiliate in San Antonio. Sal started off his career back in 1995 for the ABC Affiliate in Lubbock and has covered many high-profile news events since.In his free time, he enjoys spending time at home, gaming and loves traveling with his wife.

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San Antonio horse-drawn carriage survey receives massive response? ›

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A two-wheeled horse-drawn vehicle is a cart (see various types below, both for carrying people and for goods). Four-wheeled vehicles have many names – one for heavy loads is most commonly called a wagon. Very light carts and wagons can also be pulled by donkeys (much smaller than horses), ponies or mules.
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carriages has already received a huge response online.

How do you pass a horse-drawn carriage? ›

Enter the passing lane with a wide margin

When you are finally able to make a pass, establish a safe and reasonable distance of three or more feet between your vehicle and the horse carriage. This lessens the likelihood of the horse becoming spooked and ultimately swaying into the passing lane.

How much is a carriage ride in San Antonio? ›

On most days, the carriages line up on the streets surrounding Alamo Plaza and wait for people to approach them to ride. The cost is $25 per person who is riding. Children generally ride for free. To ride a carriage, simply walk up to the one you would like to go on and speak to the driver.

How many miles per hour can a horse-drawn carriage go? ›

A horse-drawn carriage can travel anywhere from 2 to 12 miles per hour and as far as 30 miles daily. Keep reading to learn more about this method of transportation, including factors that can influence speed and distance and the load capacity horses can handle.

What was the average speed of a horse-drawn carriage? ›

Horse-drawn vehicles traveled at slow speeds—from 4 to 12 miles per hour. This allowed intense scrutiny, as evidenced by 19th-century sources ranging from etiquette books to newspaper articles.

What are the disadvantages of horse-drawn carriages? ›

In many cities, horse-drawn carriages are seen as tourist attractions, evoking nostalgic images of days gone by. Yet, underlying these quaint notions is the reality for the horses: daily exposure to noise and pollution, heavy traffic, hard pavement, long workdays, constant heavy loads, and lack of access to pasture.

What is the average weight of a horse-drawn carriage? ›

The average large carriage weight is in the neighborhood of 1800 lbs. However, the wheels and design make the load on the horse lighter. Imagine trying to lift a bag of heavy mulch and walk with it.

How much is a horse drawn carriage ride through Central Park? ›

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How much is a horse drawn carriage ride in New Orleans? ›

Not everyone is enthralled with the mule/buggy idea! I just returned from a trip to NOLA the first week of June. If you go in a group carriage it is $12 per person. If you hire a private carriage it is $60 per person.

How much did a horse and carriage cost? ›

On average, horse and carriage rentals cost $500 - $800 for 1 hour.

Can horses memorize routes? ›

Well-trained and experienced horses could memorize their regular route, travelling from house to house automatically and waiting patiently as the driver carried loaves, crates, blocks, or bottles from the wagon to the front door.

How long does it take to ride 40 miles on a horse? ›

A general rule of thumb is about 10 mph for a fit horse and rider (since they're going to be running) up to about 50-60 miles, if they're not carrying their own food/water and then they stop. So a day's riding, or 7–8 hours. Humans can keep going without stopping for food, horses can't.

How long can a horse run carrying a rider? ›

At top speed with a rider on it's back a horse can carry a rider for roughly 3km. However, in a race setting the horse is then paced allowing it to reach a further distance of approximately 8km at a fast speed.

Why did stagecoaches have six horses? ›

Because the terrain was so rough in western North Carolina, travel by stage required changes of teams every eight to ten miles and often six horses instead of the usual four. Despite their discomfort, stagecoach passengers generally did not complain and often developed a camaraderie with other riders.

What is it called when you drive a horse drawn carriage? ›

Carriage terminology

The carriage driver is called a whip. A person whose business was to drive a carriage was a coachman.

Did stagecoaches have glass windows? ›

Stagecoaches could travel at about ten miles per hour. Riding horseback was much faster, but one could not carry nearly as much cargo. Riding in a coach was much different than our experience riding in cars today. Coaches could not have glass windows, as the rocky and rough roads would have broken them.

How do horse-drawn carriages go downhill? ›

Dandy waggon or dandy cart: an additional small rail car added to a gravity train to transport the horse downhill, after which the horse would pull the line of cars (often slate waggons) back up the hill.

What is the Amish buggy etiquette? ›

Be sure to slow down and allow buggies and horse drawn equipment plenty of room when passing. Only pass when legal and safe. NEVER pass a buggy near the top of a hill. Oncoming traffic is traveling up to 50 mph, please don't get in their way when they can't see you!

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